p90x Plyometrics X … Are you kidding me?
ByOoh this one is probably going to ruffle some feathers. How do I know this? Because anyone who has anything negative to say about anything p90x gets attacked. Not even uber strength coach Charles Staley is safe from the “p90 xplorers” cult. For some reason, I don’t know maybe it’s just clever marketing or something, people on the p90x program walk around acting like they are a Navy Seal going through Buds. Some of them act like they are on an elite program used on cage fighters and NFL draft picks.
Now here let me just get this out in the open before I start. Yes p90x helps you burn fat. Yes p90x is hard. Yes I know it can get you down right exhausted. Yes I know that they get in better shape…usually. Yes I know that p90x has a lot of tremendous before and after pictures (real too…congrats to them) Yes I know that pro athletes use plyometrics to increase their power.
Here is where p90x succeeds. It is a diet and exercise program that gets people off their asses and exercising. Any exercise program that is followed is going to get some results…especially beginners.
BeachBody has million dollar investors putting out megabucks to push this thing out to the market. p90x has 2 million searches per month on google alone…think about that a second 2 million A MONTH!. Do you think you might get a couple decent before and after pics with that many people trying it out? Exactly.
Now that I have gotten that out of the way, on to the topic at hand. Plyometrics X
Plyometrics are used by many pro athletes to improve their explosive power for sports performance applications. The problem is that all too often coaches take a great concept and mutate it to get it away from it’s original purpose. They aren’t seeing the forest for the trees. “Plyos” have been especially victimized in this regard.
This is how BeachBody.com explained plyometrics
Explosive jumping cardio routine proven to dramatically improve athletic performance.
Here is the thing. Plyometrics are intended to take advantage of the myotatic reflex which in non geek speak refers to the automatic contraction of muscles done as a reaction to a quick stretch. It is like an automatic muscular reflex and it has to be very “touch and go”. Oh yeah and it has to be done for low reps. Let me illustrate the reflex analogy. You know that thing they do when you go to the doctor’s office and they whack you on the knee with a tiny rubber hammer and your knee kicks up? If they did that a bunch of times your knee would stop kicking up as high and eventually not do it at all. Plyometrics kind of work the same way and you need it to be fresh as a daisy.
You can also think of it like a ball bouncing on the floor. The force of the ground pushes the side of the ball in and the balls natural reaction is to push back out propelling it up. If it stays there it doesn’t bounce.
If you watch MMA superstar Georges St.Pierre in this video at around 2 minutes and 42 seconds you can see that he instigates the drill by first jumping over a hurdle and IMMEDIATELY bouncing up over the next one and the next one. Like I said “touch and go” and the keyword is “immediately”.
The key is “bouncing”. If you don’t bounce immediately up you lose that effect. Any time on the ground and it’s wasted. THAT is how it is used on professional athletes and as you can see it is A LOT more involved than simply jumping around your living room like a fool.
Plyometrics X is glorified aerobics made to sound scientific and cool. It doesn’t take advantage of that myotatic reflex which makes it lose sight of how plyometrics works. It’s like picking up a couple light dumbbells, doing a bunch of different curls with them and telling people you train like Arnold.
I watched the p90x plyometrics x dvd all the way through because I was curious about what they were doing. I actually laughed harder at some of the moves then I did at some of the comedies that came out this year (there really aren’t a whole lot of funny movies anymore). I can’t fathom how some people can do some of these exercises and think that’s the same thing that they are doing in NFL, NHL, NBA and UFC.
Surely they must be kidding me.
50 Comments
September 28th, 2010 at 4:26 am
GSP has some hops! I also wondered about trying to do plyometrics for an entire workout on P90X. It’s not the kind of thing people can do for 30-40 minutes and still have proper form. Thanks for reminding me I need to do more plyo training.
September 28th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Tom,
You are welcome. Just make sure you are actually doing plyo training and not just jumping around your living room like an idiot
Eric
November 4th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Mr. Moss,
Man you are so right, I watched the DVD for about 35 mins and was doing the routine (can it be called that) now somewhere i read Tony wanted to be an actor so maybe its his acting or not but in that video i belive less than 10 mins they are all breathing heavy. Now mind you i am not a cage fighter but am in decent shape and i was not breathing heavy (no acting) till about 35th minute. So my review of this DVD is not so great and would look for further guidence…
Brian C.
Thanks Brian C.
November 7th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
Brian
What is it you are trying to accomplish?
March 7th, 2011 at 12:56 am
well lets not forget for the average person that is doing these routines, the plyo disc with p90x is more then good enough especially if your goal is only to get in shape and not train for a major sporting event. I am doing the system and for the cardio side of it. it is fine. I realize that it is no where near the pros but why do i need to be like that when all i want do it for is heath reasons and for the odd pick up game of hockey or some kind of sport. with that said again for the avg person out there this is good enough.
March 7th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
Cory
For the average person trying just to move a bit more and get some exercise in to improve their health, yes this is fine but don’t jump around your living room thinking you are an elite athlete. It is what it is and that is exactly what it is.
March 22nd, 2011 at 10:04 pm
Eric,
I am not sure who you think is doing this and thinking they are an elite athlete. This is for people who are in moderate shape to get into better shape. The plyo disc is pretty demanding for some people. I have done 2 cycles of p90x over the past year and have gotten great results but I definitely do not consider myself an elite athlete (though I can jump a lot higher now).
March 22nd, 2011 at 11:50 pm
Jimmy
Take a quick look around youtube videos that bash this and you will find p90x people jumping to it’s defense by claiming it’s the same stuff pro athletes are doing. That comes from the marketing done by Beach Body and from Tony Horton saying that you are ready for Mt. Everest. It gets old after awhile.
September 7th, 2011 at 2:42 am
Mmm, you definitely have valid points but here is the thing. Not everyone wants to use plyometrics exclusively for its benefits in the explosive power department. I did competitive rowing for quite a bit, and the trainings had a lot of these kind of plyometrics (working heavily on cardio endurance and leg endurance as well). It depends on how low you go and how intense you do it. THere are definitely parts of this workout where you do explosive training, like jumping the gap and jump knee tucks. Like I said, I have used this kind of training in the past with great results.. and let me tell you, rowing is among the most intense sports ever, elite rowers are arguably the best athletes in the planet. May not be the strongest, most explosive, necesarily, but all around, this kind of plyo training is awesome. I do see where you’re coming from though.
September 7th, 2011 at 4:47 am
why would you do this for rowing? there are better ways to train for it
September 14th, 2011 at 4:10 am
Uh, I suggest, Eric, that you try Plyo X. While it might not be your definition of Plyo, it’s still hard as shit; if you give it your all. I played collegiate sports (soccer) and (track) at NCAA2 level, was in great condition my whole life, and still found that plyo x beat me up bad. Furthermore, some of the demonstrators, Dom for instance, in the P090x videos are clearly elite athletes, and not having an easy time with it. You are clearly walking around with a massive chip on your tiny shoulders.
September 14th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Terrible, terrible article. I can assure you the vast majority of people doing Plyo X don’t suddenly believe they can compete with top level professional athletes from doing a simple home workout. I’m certainly not fooling myself, but at least I can say I’ve never been in better condition since I started P90X, and I’ve been exercising my entire life. People don’t have the facilities, money or time to do what GSP is doing. Plyo X is a fantastic cardio workout, and yes, from my experience, it does dramatically improve athletic performance.
I may look like a fool jumping around in my living room, but I’d rather be a fool who is jumping, than fool who is sitting on the sofa, watching rubbish on television and munching on some burgers.It is what it is and that’s exactly what it is.
September 15th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
r or whatever your real name is
just because it “beats you up” doesn’t necessarily make it good and neither does having “elite athletes” demonstrate it either. and my “tiny shoulders” can put 3/4 of my bodyweight overhead with one hand. what can you do?
September 15th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
then the vast majority aren’t speaking up because this is what i have seen via youtube videos, forums etc.
November 20th, 2011 at 3:30 am
I understand what you’re saying from “your perspective.” I’m a senior in high school and have found this program to be extremely useful. Plyometrics X reminds me of that feel that high school football practice used to have, I never understood why we ran more than soccer but W/e. In no way would I consider myself a professional athlete, have you seen the way pro athletes look? Unfortunately for me I fractured my right talus in the beginning of 10th grade and lost a considerable amount of my ROM in that said ankle. I’ve found that my ankle is starting to move a little bit more at a very slow pace but that could just be the entire program in general.
Anyway my real point is this, my teachers have repeatedly pounded into my head to never make sweeping generalizations. Your last comment about the vast majority not speaking up should almost be a given. However your last comment implies that you expected the vast majority to speak up. If you think for just one second, the chances of more than 15%-20% of everyone that has tried P90X actually posting a video or talking about it in a forum would be considered a generous assumption (in the sense that it’s leaning towards more people than the amount that have actually posted something about it).
However this is not simply a bash on Eric Moss comment. I do commend you for writing this seeing as how I am now looking at this from a different perspective. I find P90X leans more to the side of losing weight as opposed to bulking up. It got me off my ass and back into fitness. It also made me a huge fan of the program at the same time. If people are saying what you are claiming, then they are a bunch of narcissistic assholes. When I have some more free time I’ll have to watch some video’s of these P90X lovers claiming to be on the same level as Pro Athletes. If my comment seems rude or skeptical in any way I apologize for what the I.B. program has turned me into.
I also do Plyometrics X either barefoot or in vibrams so I’m not sure if that changes my perspective on things. Just throwing that out there
November 29th, 2011 at 4:30 am
I think Mr. Moss was a P90X drop out after day two.
November 29th, 2011 at 7:50 am
I dropped out before even doing it. “air guitar squats” are much to advanced
December 2nd, 2011 at 1:16 am
I am not intending to debunk your entire article Eric, but just to clarify what you stated above. The quick stretch reflex (patella tendon reflex) does not degrade over time, we actually use the reflex in the gait process(every time we walk). Just saying
December 2nd, 2011 at 1:27 am
Micheal if you were to smack your knee with a hammer repeatedly, it would jump up not quite so high each time. Walking is a bit different and not nearly as intense as plyometrics (true plyos that is). lIke any kind of stimulus your body can “get used to it” and it will lose its effect
January 15th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
So when will Eric Moss be releasing his competing collection of fitness DVDs to dethrone the “laughable” p90x and make himself a multimillionaire? Never?
Sounds like someone is jealous.
January 16th, 2012 at 2:55 am
tell you what….you find me a multimillion dollar investor to promote it and I will release the dvds. I’ll give you a free copy too
January 24th, 2012 at 5:06 am
Eric,
What a sad, nasty ‘roided-out little big-man you must be. I’ll bet your personal training business hasn’t been doing so well in this economy. How do those grapes taste? Sour?
January 25th, 2012 at 12:24 am
[...] back I did an unfavorable write up on p90x plyometrics X and recently it’s caught a lot of people’s attention many of which I guess I hurt their [...]
March 21st, 2012 at 4:57 pm
I do p90x plying to help my running endurance. It’s my cross training day and I have to say that it has helped me run faster and increased muscle mass in my legs. I enjoy it as an off day to my running and can’t see why your bashing it?
March 29th, 2012 at 2:31 am
So… you take issue with people you’ve never met, who you imagine think things with which you disagree, about a program you’ve never done.
Gotcha.
PS: way to rock that leather jacket.
September 21st, 2012 at 4:00 am
Eric,
Let me clearly say that my comment comes from a perspective of respect, since I know nothing about you.
I am okay with people poking holes in a product…after all, that’s how we get better products! But to poke without offering an alternative is a problem. It takes nothing more than a cheap point and shoot camera (or even a cell phone) with video capture capability and you can post a video on youTube for free for everyone to see. Show people a better alternative!
Second, let’s talk experimental method. Take someone’s baseline measurements (vertical leap, for example) Next, have them do the P90X program as prescribed. Re-measure. Next have them do YOUR workout routine. Re-measure. From there, the results should be obvious. Do this with a few people, and now you have PROOF of your unspoken hypothesis…that you can provide better outcomes (jump height, 40-yd dash, whatever) than P90X.
Thoughts?
Peace,
Mike
November 9th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Mike,
I have provided alternatives but maybe I’ve been a bit too quiet about it. It’s no secret that I am a fan of kettlebell training and the RKC now turned StrongFirst system of physical training. In terms of fat loss go with Kettlebell Burn (I have links to it) and in terms of improving vertical leap stretch out the hip flexors with prying exercises, practice the kettlebell swing…retest. Kettlebell Burn has a bunch of swings in it as well so it can simultaneously make you lean, strong and improve your vertical jump. I don’t need to provide proof since others have done it before me and it was tested on pro athletes…real pro athletes.
I’m not disagreeing with you btw. It’s good that you keep people accountable instead of just blindly following.
Eric
December 11th, 2012 at 3:37 am
Eric,
I haven’t personally met anyone in my area who has done P90x, but I have been in the gym seeing those guys who walk around thinking they own the place. Are you writing this because certain people have this huge ego while doing the program? I’m just curious.
I’m in the second 30 days of the program and I have skipped a few days on plyo and yoga (yoga takes too long) and I get 70% way through plyo because I honestly do think some of the moves are goofy; but I’m also not training to be in UFC or NFL. I am seeing pretty good results though,i just have to keep it up and I’m working on my diet too, which I think best of the results come from (IMO). You think sticking it out in P90x is good or going to gym and getting a routine down is good for my goals? I’m trying to get the Ryan Reynolds look from Amittyville Horror.” Or Sean William Scott look from “The Rundown” thanks
Brandt Robin
December 17th, 2012 at 2:43 am
Brandt,
the moves that are goofy are just jumping around, they won’t prepare you for the ufc beyond just learning how to throw a real punch or kick.
the look you are trying to get as far as muscle shape is largely genetic. proportion wise though i would think either visual impact muscle building or adonis effect would suit you well. pick which one you can stick with.
January 15th, 2013 at 4:06 am
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January 15th, 2013 at 4:25 am
Eric,
Writing an article where the theme is to bash a product that you have never used is pretty unprofessional and simply a waste of time. I have been an athlete my whole life (24 years old) and was a 3 sport athlete in high school with offers to play in college. Before I used P90X last year, I was playing flag football, volleyball and basketball. I could touch the rim and dunk a tennis ball but was no where near dunking a regulation size basketball. After P90X, and using my own simple nutrition plan, I was a MUCH more efficient volleyball and football player, and COULD dunk for the first time in my life. I gained at least 3 inches on my vertical and went from 187 to 175 in 90 days. I hardly ever comment on articles but your article is so ignorant that I had to respond. I went from doing 40 standard push ups to 100 standard push ups with relative ease. The definition on my body was like nothing I have ever seen. Again, I have never been overweight but P90X put me in the best shape of my life in just 90 days. I also trained for 4 years with the best high school strength coach in the nation with the #1 power lifting school in the nation so I have plenty of experience.
As for your ill-informed statement about professional athletes being too good for this program…
Each of these athletes has completed the P90 X Program:
David Akers (Black belt, NFL star)
Mike Tyson (top 10 boxer of all time)
Brett Favre (top 10 QB of all-time, ironman played until the age of 40)
Brad Davis (professional soccer player)
Ray Lewis (top 3 LB of all time, played until age 37 and lost 30 lbs on it in 2011)
Todd Helton (All-star baseball player)
Martin Prado (starting MLB player)
Shawn Merriman (Pro bowl LB in the NFL)
Emmitt Smith (greatest RB of all-time)
Ray Allen (greatest 3 point shooter of all-time)
Kelly Slater (one of the best surfers of all-time)
I would keep going but I think you get the point… Please inform yourself and experience the product before you negatively write a bunch of “opinions” and claim them to be true.
I look forward to your respond Mr. Moss…
January 22nd, 2013 at 6:29 am
Chris
First- I don’t have to give every product that comes to my attention a try to be able to give a report on it. I’ve got several years of experience and know enough about the subject matter to call it like I see it…and yes I have watched the thing in it’s entirety and don’t need to perform “air guitar squats” for 90 days to know it’s not for me.
Second- If you think that those athletes using that program is completely true that’s laughable. For one thing athletes at an elite level don’t want their programs to be made public because they are in competition. In addition to that do you really think that athletes that are paid the amounts that they are, with full time strength and conditioning coaches on the payroll and with the amount of money on the line that depends on whether they win or lose…do you really believe that they are going to wager that on a follow at home dvd workout? If you do I have news for you…I have a bridge for sale and if you buy now you’ll get some ocean front property in Ohio free of charge. The truth is that they are given the program, and paid money to endorse it. That’s how the market works in reality.
Third- I don’t normally $hit on peoples results as you can see in my responses to the people that got results following this program but since you wanted to poke the beast, quite frankly I’m not impressed with 3 inches to your vertical leap over 90 days. I recently got an athlete I trained 8 inches on his vertical leap in 12 sessions lasting less than 40 mins each…w/out air guitar squats.
Fourth- for someone as “researched” as you are…you missed out on the point of this article. See this link http://ericjmoss.com/p90x-plyometrics-x-review-part-2-please-forgive-me-tony-horton/ and you’ll see you fell right into it
Fifth- I find it hard to believe you trained with “the best in the nation” not once but twice and still think an in home follow along dvd is going to be better.
January 23rd, 2013 at 1:10 pm
Eric,
You iz dum.
<3 Chris
January 24th, 2013 at 5:30 am
Eric your a typical gym bullheaded DICK, look around you no- one likes you, your out of high school no one cares what you think, because you dont think you just speak like 99 percent of the idiots I get to deal with every day as a covert operations detective. The truth is you are not Tony and your Jealous of his success.
January 24th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
Wow I guess that means I’ve “arrived” when a “covert operations detective” is willing to blow his cover to criticize a blog for poking fun at a fitness product he likes
January 24th, 2013 at 5:47 pm
If you actually read the post, I said p90x gets people results unlike several infomercial products…it just isn’t real plyometrics. Guess who’s the dumb one lol
January 24th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
Ok,
Here it is. I am a P90x success story. I lost 110lbs in a year. I was quarterfinalist in the Beachbody challenge. I was in the very first class of people to get certified to teach and call class P90x…I was actually invited to do this. P90x works… for general fitness, fat loss and muscular endurance.
P90x plyometrics is NOT plyometrics as Eric points out. It will NOT help you jump higher by building the contrative power of true plyometrics. It WILL help you jump higher by helping you shed a few fat pounds.
I did 5 back to back rounds of p90x and the main benchmarks (number of pushups, # of pullups, vertical, fat%) all improved…ridiculously. As dis my overall endurance.. as mentioned above, it was more about fat loss and general fitness improvement. How do I know this? When I went into the weight room and tested THOSE benchmarks (benchpress, squat, deadlift) nothing changed in terms of absolute strength.
The atheletes mentioned that used the program also did use the program for GENERAL FITNESS or used the program AFTER THEY NO LONGER WERE TRAINING FOR TOP LEVEL COMPETITION.
I don’t bash the program. It changed my life. I think it has value in that it can ASSIST an athlete in general preparation and even help an average person transform their physique.
I think Eric is not bashing the program as a whole but simply saying plyo x is not true plyometrics…and I agree. Same goes with yoga x (which I actually LOVE). What do I know? Since my transformation I have done nothing but eat, sleep, read and LIVE strength, health, fitness and nutrition. I have earned certifications from Health Coaching to Performance Enhancement Specialist and work with athletes of all levels…I wouldn’t recommend plyox to one of my athletes that wanted to jump higher but WOULD and DO recommend it to a person without the facility to hire a trainer or someone in need of a general fitness at home with some variety.
P.S. at the p90x certification the master trainers admitted that the program is outdated and advised against teaching certian movements (air guitar and pitcher pours have caused knee issues and shoulder impingements respectively.)
January 25th, 2013 at 12:41 am
Wow!!!! They really didn’t read what you wrote did they! I was doing P90x when you wrote this and I liked it, but have since gotten into strength training using your blog as well as Elliott Hulse’s and have had much better results! Plus I got a trainer to kick my butt cuz at home DVDs weren’t doing it for me! But Eric you rock, and helped change my paradigm for the better!!! THX!!!!
February 9th, 2013 at 11:34 am
I don’t know if I would be considered an elite athlete, but
my success as the runner up in the open class.golden gloves
can definately be attributed to P90X.
While following the program for 90 days the only extra training I did
was to spar 3 rounds 3 days weekly.
Did P90 in the morning sparring 3 evenings.
I used the program to prepare and without a doubt got me ready.
My physique, functional strength, and conditioning was the reason I defeated better skilled, more
experienced boxers.
The program works and plylox is a very good workout.
February 12th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
Eric..mate…
[...]First- I don’t have to give every product that comes to my attention a try to be able to give a report on it[...]
You for serious man? That is like me saying “Chocolate is shit, I haven’t tried it…but it looks like shit”
No one is going to actually take you seriously if you haven’t even bothered to try out the product (or part of it at least) that you are bashing. You’re like the ideal example of don’t judge a book by its cover.
(Btw I love chocolate)
February 15th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
Joe
congrats on being a runner up. Like I said in the blog post, p90x will get you results…but it’s not true plyos and it’s not what people think it is…the be all end all of strength and conditioning. I may be over confident in this but I like to think if I was your trainer you might have taken first place instead of being the runner up.
Krames
Do you have to wear a dress to find out weather or not you are a cross dresser? I sure as hell don’t.
Eric
February 19th, 2013 at 11:44 am
Eric,
Yes I agree that plyo-x is not the actual proper plyometrics that professional athletes. I’m pretty sure majority of the pro football/basketball players are not using p90x cuz they can grab themselves a personal trainer.
Anyway, my point is you can’t judge the authenticity and integrity of a product without actually trying it. Cross-dressing and commenting on a product related to your field of work are 2 very different things. Yes, it may have some silly jumps and stupid rockstar moves but the whole point is to add some variety and fun into a otherwise boring repetitive regime. There are a lot of people (including myself) that hate the monotonous aspect of gyming. P90X offers an alternative environment where you enjoy working out…you get a laugh out of it. This is very appealing for people who are coach potatoes and hate the whole concept of going to the gym and make a fool of themselves in front of people who have been pumping iron since they were teenagers (exaggeration, but I hope you get my point).
Maybe give the program a go, at least plyo-x and see where you stand after that. If you truly think its rubbish after trying it out then its all good. Plus you will have more stuff to talk about
. Hell you may even like it…wouldn’t that be something?!
February 19th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Wow I did p90x and jumped around in my living room like an idiot like erik said.I lost 70 pounds and I am stronger then I’ve ever been.that’s pretty crappy to down a workout program like p90x there are so many gimmicks and gadgets out there to take your money and give you no results.attack them tony brings it to the basics of a good diet and working out.and that’swhat works i went to a gym and it didn’t work for me.the trick is find what works for you.tony Horton motivates me I love p90x
February 20th, 2013 at 3:01 am
Jason
congrats on your weight loss. Like I said it’s not plyometrics but p90x will get you results because it’s diet and exercise.
February 20th, 2013 at 3:07 am
Krames
I never said p90x won’t get you results. Of course for the general person getting off their couch and doing pushups a bunch of pushups and eating a healthy diet will get results…just don’t go thinking that what you are doing is true plyometrics because it isn’t.
I don’t think p90x is rubbish…I think parts of it are laughable yes but when compared side to side with things like the shake weight it’s obvious which is the superior method. And no I will not do p90x…I don’t need to. The goal must remain the goal and the system I follow allowed me to have the kind of strength that makes it so I can bend horseshoes, spikes, frying pans and steel bars. Changing systems wouldn’t make sense for me.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:34 am
Why is everyone hating on Eric? It’s not, plyo x is nott true plyometrics, he didn’t say won’t get you results.it’s not explosive training I have p90x, and love it. But do wish the plyometrics was more explosive. P90 should have not called it plyometrics at all. Has nothing to.do with a gym or not, has to do with how you do it.plyo x is just a workout(a good one).
March 28th, 2013 at 4:53 pm
Not trying to bash anything, but what is the difference between what the guy in the GSP video is doing around 2:42 and Plyo X? There’s an exercise in Plyo X that is exactly the same called jump knee tuck, only done without the hurdles.
And don’t they keep saying, not just in Plyo X but in all the P90x videos to modify the workout to get better results? You can easily add weights or use more explosive movements to almost all the exercises.
April 26th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
Hey RK, sorry that this is such a late reply.
There’s multiple differences. For one thing true plyos are a shock technique for already highly trained people. The prerequisite in Russian sport science is a double body weight squat…that’s a pretty big prerequisite. I doubt anyone purchasing p90x has that. The other thing is even though 1 exercise looks similar in appearance the devil is in the details. What GSP is doing jumping over the hurdles takes advantage of the myotatic stretch reflex…which is like a bouncing type reflex in the tendon. It has to be very touch and go. Jumping knee tucks are not “bouncy” therefore don’t take advantage of that and true plyos are also done while “fresh” not while jumping around to near exhaustion. And yes they do say modify it but they don’t say do everything different.
Eric
May 1st, 2013 at 4:01 am
Hi, I personally think your article was very flawed. How can you judge something without doing it? Just because you “watched it” and had a laugh doesn’t mean you know anything about it. I’ve been in great shape my whole life and have been doing p90x for the last year and a half. Plyo x is an amazing workout. And the main point of plyo x is to burn calories and give your legs a counter to what you do on the legs and back DVD. Sure some of the moves look stupid, but you sound stupid by assuming its a bad workout without ever even doing it. Get some perspective. I could write an article about what it’s like to live in china without having ever been there…. Would I know what in the hell I was talking about? Nope.
May 1st, 2013 at 4:21 am
Nick
I don’t have to eat used condoms to know it’s not for me either. With the tons of fitness information out there it would be a waste to try each and every one. What I am basing it on is my knowledge of strength and conditioning which is well relatively diverse and from that I am perfectly able to form opinions on what I see. And you sound stupid for not reading what I wrote…which was that you would get results following this program…it just isn’t true plyos. Read it again before providing your perspective on my perspective.
Eric